Curse

Charcoal Ann · Aug 28, 2005, 12:23 PM // 12:23

a mesmer is almost a must on the missions during and after the desert (with all those bosses).

my newest char is a mesmer. when i seared i was teamed with a ranger and Orion and Stefan. the other side had an ele and a fighter (both higher lvl than me or my team mate) as well as Alesia and Orion.
i has full on shut down. the i cast backfire and empathy on those who needed it and let them kill themselves. our team, no healer won that 9-0. i was ignored and so they basically had no casters and the warriors self destructed. easy.

as all my other chars i am always happy to see any class in my team. i am just as happy to see a mesmer as i am to see an ele.

long live them Mesmer!!

Maiyn · Aug 28, 2005, 12:24 PM // 12:24

Well, they get hated on from the opposing teams because they are just so damn effective. They shutdown so much.. they're just crazy to be honest. I fear them when I see em in pvp (I am a caster, but then again anything is vulnerable to a mesmer)

I think some people are just dumb jerks and don't talk at all. I have the same thing occur when I"m in a party with another monk and we're trying to figure out what elites to bring. You ask them numerous times but they just don't answer..

Dunno why, just shy or whatever I suppose.

I personally love mesmers. If I'm playing Pve, I MUST have one in my party. Pvp I normally have been playing a spiker lately so no need for a mes, but if I was in just any team. I'd definitely want one.

00039 · Aug 28, 2005, 12:42 PM // 12:42

I loathe fighting mesmers. When I encounter one they always become my first target since they cause the most trouble out of everything.

Kalysha Katana · Aug 28, 2005, 02:09 PM // 14:09

All this angst/ignorance etc against Mesmers is easily solved. And something that ArenaNet should have done from day one.....that is, put in a combat log. Problem solved. Everyone knows then who is doing what damage

My first (main) character in this game was Mesmer. I still play her even after trying all the other professions out. Still find Mesmer the most challenging of all. But very rewarding. I very rarely group or PvP these days simply because of the ignorance show to the class...

At the end of the day, those that don't understand how valuable a Mesmer can be in battle or in a mission, then it's their loss.

Nightwish · Aug 28, 2005, 02:38 PM // 14:38

Same here. My mesmer gets targeted "before" monks in most matches. The warriors will chase me until either their team loses or mine.

As for defenses, mesmers do not have alot to back up on. Many times I entered a battle, I will get all these:

1. Spammed with hexes (even with hex breaker)
2. Ganged upon by warriors
3. Zapped by eles

The amount of attention given by the enemy team is almost rediculous.
Unless I bring all types of defenses, I'll mostly likely the 1st one to go down.

Numa Pompilius · Aug 28, 2005, 03:04 PM // 15:04

Like I said: a class that both is annoying and easy to kill = mesmers get a lot of TLC from the enemy.
I find mesmer the most fun class to play, it's just so rewarding to royally screw up some poor caster on the opposing team in various inventive ways, but in random arena, where there's usually no monk on the team and the other people don't see it as their job to keep you alive, mesmers tend to die a lot. And quickly.

Still, we actually won a couple of matches because the other three on my team could gang up on one enemy while the three other enemies were chasing me around the map, Benny Hill style.

2_fingers · Aug 28, 2005, 04:57 PM // 16:57

People underappreciate mesmers because they arent tat many of them. Thinking about the pvp arena, pre patch, nature renewal and ur hexes have a big problem being casted.

When i was a mesmer, i couldnt get into a party unless i told them i'd play my secondary(monk) more than my mesmer. I had to sell out my mesmer because of the snobbish attitudes of ppl. I'm generalizing here but in pve, for a party, there must always be 2 monks, 2 warriors, 2 elementals perhaps another ranger or warrior. Mesmers don't even figure into the equation.

Strangely though, many of the missions (think asscension) become eazy with a mesmer. Someone who can disable a monk boss (Thirsty river) Interupt Glint etc.

When i pvp, a mesmer is welcome - provided it fits into the general composition i;m interested in. Personally though, when i play a mesmer, i have more trouble entering a pve mission than a pvp areana.

Mhydrian · Aug 28, 2005, 05:24 PM // 17:24

Mesmers can destroy melees and casters alike with ease. And the Fragility build is leaving alot of people with a bad taste in their mouths. I really think the fragiliy build is the real culprit. One shotting people has no place in PVP, the fragility build can be cast by a complete retard and easily own, the rest is running around and trying to get energy to set up another frag.

Chase the Sky · Aug 28, 2005, 06:20 PM // 18:20

I want to kill mesmers first. A good mesmer on the other team is way more of a pain then a monk on the other team.

Amused Observer · Aug 29, 2005, 02:14 AM // 02:14

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Originally Posted by Morganas

Amused, you're quite off on the pve aggro concept. They're not attacking you because of damage, they're killing you because you get too close. Make sure to keep the front line warriors out of your aggro circle until all enemies have engaged on them, or else they'll prioritize low armor targets.

Is that so? In fow, the Ws and beasties come after me, and I stay well behind the tanks in my group. Heck, I stand next to monks, and my Mes still get targeted first. *shrugs*

Amused Observer · Aug 29, 2005, 02:17 AM // 02:17

But on this third and last day of the pvp event, I noticed that a lot of teams in tombs are calling for Mes now. Perhaps the previous 2 days of pvping have changed their view on Mesmers.

Amused Observer · Aug 29, 2005, 02:21 AM // 02:21

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Originally Posted by Yen-lo-wang

The nice thing about E/Me's, at least from what a guildie of mine has told me, is that you're targeted late in the game, so you can either go as a straight Mesmer in disguise with a TON of energy, or as an Ele with a couple skills from the Illusion line to supplement your skills.

actually, I find this true of E/Mo as well. I noticed that a lot of them rely heavily on the monk skills (heal, protect, hex/condition removal, smite) and use the E side as support (glyphs).

Kai Nui · Aug 29, 2005, 02:27 AM // 02:27

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Originally Posted by Amused Observer

Is that so? In fow, the Ws and beasties come after me, and I stay well behind the tanks in my group. Heck, I stand next to monks, and my Mes still get targeted first. *shrugs*

Same here. I seriously think mesmers need better armour because they're going down way to fast. And since I am one and I've devoted all my time into one... there's not any getting out of it. I've died way more than the normal person, refunds just get in the way because I constantly have to swap since I want skill points on my main character, etc... I dunno but mesmering is being a pain. I think every time I go out there I am the first to die. First thing I see is a warrior chasing me and I have to run, and the best running technique requires me to stop to cast it then cripples me after it's done. It's really pathetic. There needs to be some more running skills, armour, or something, I hate to have a warrior countering build, but I have to have it if I even want to play. I love interrupting spells because it comes easy to me, but when I'm dead in 2 seconds, I'm just a walking dead-man.

Theos · Aug 29, 2005, 02:31 AM // 02:31

Like necros, mesmers do not need better armour. They have to lose out somewhere to be balanced.

The rise of demand for mesmers, in my opinion is not that people have awakened and noticed that mesmers are key to any team, but that they have realized that a Mes/X (i prefer Me/N) can effectively shutdown smite. Two would be overkill. The other reason is that like Ele, mesmers can be covert healers/prots/nukers/necros/etc...

Amused Observer · Aug 29, 2005, 02:31 AM // 02:31

Actually, I just take my lumps and mutter a prayer that the healers notice my health bar going down rapidly. LOL If I end up dying so that the enemies' monks go down, so be it.

Kai Nui · Aug 29, 2005, 02:40 AM // 02:40

Yay now everyone realizes that mesmers are weak, so lets be sure to kick their ass first. Yay.

Savio · Aug 29, 2005, 04:29 AM // 04:29

If they aren't targetting Mesmers first, they're pretty bad. Mesmers are targetted after or even before the Monks for their skills. You're a Mesmer, figure out how to stop them. Price of Failure, Distortion, etc. You can be anti-warrior too you know.

Nightwish · Aug 29, 2005, 04:52 AM // 04:52

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Originally Posted by Savio

If they aren't targetting Mesmers first, they're pretty bad. Mesmers are targetted after or even before the Monks for their skills. You're a Mesmer, figure out how to stop them. Price of Failure, Distortion, etc. You can be anti-warrior too you know.

You are correct. I apply some of the def skills you mention, savio. But most of the time, its not very useful unless you equip all of them. Why? Because every single player on the other team targets you...yes, its that scary.

Rangers keep pelting you, eles nuke you, warriors chase you nonstop. Sometimes with so many of them focus on me, I end up doing olympic runs instead while wondering what my teamates are up to =/

Numa Pompilius · Aug 29, 2005, 05:23 AM // 05:23

Even as a mesmer, I target other mesmers first. Especially Me/N | N/Me's, as they're often/usually/always fragility+virulence spikers who'll otherwise kill the warriors within seconds.

It seems like mesmer fragility spikers are the new aeromancers.

Color It Red · Dec 16, 2005, 09:28 AM // 09:28

Aeromancers??

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I overheard a conversation in the outposts stating that mesmers were totally noob and only noobs would choose that class. And the sad thing was... there were so many of them agreeing on that.

Hahahaha. Why do you think they said that?

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So, did you experience similiar things?

Uhmm... I don't think so. I just do RP then when I'm lvl 20 I could go to PvP.